Compressing guitar in the mix
For acoustic and clean electric guitars, I use Sony wave hammer Guitar presets. The compression settings are:
Threshold: -20dB
Ratio: 5.0 is to 1
Attack time: 15ms
Release time: 15ms
The threshold is lower in volume compared to the vocals, the primary reason is that guitars need to sound a bit lower than vocals in the mix or else it will dominate the vocals. Compressing at -20dB ensures that any strong level above it will be suppressed five times to control the volume and not being too loud. Guitar sounds are not sharp transients in nature unlike vocals, kick and snare. It will have a sustaining and delaying sound. So a medium set attack and release time is good.
In addition, this article illustrates some compression techniques on guitar solo.
Compressing bass guitar the mix
Bass guitar sounds needs to be compressed to provide a steady beat backbone to the song. This is very important in modern rock and pop tracks. And because of this, I use Sony wave hammer Bass guitar presets with the following settings:
Threshold= -20dB
Ratio: 6 is to 1
Attack time: 40ms
Release time: 80ms
The main concept of creating a big bass sound is slow attack and fast release. This is because since bass are not super fast transient it needs to develop it’s level first then set compressor to attack the signal and release it immediately, the effect is a loud sounding bass. Compression settings is a bit higher than guitar and vocals, because bass needs to be more uniform in sound to provide a steady beat. You can also read this additional resource.
Compressing kick drum in the mix
I do not compress kick drum in the mix because I want to sound real, alive and not compressed. Compressing kick drums in my experience, takes away its deep bass sound so I do not like idea of compressing it.
You can read this kick drum tutorial on EQ settings and compression tips.
Compressing snare drums
Snare drums needs compression, so to compress snare I use these settings :
Attack: 20ms
Release: 40ms
Threshold: -12dB
Compression ratio: 5:1
Snare needs to sound natural even though it is sharp transient in nature I prefer to compress snare with a slower attack time and faster release. This will give a full snare and powerful sound. Compressing with too fast attack time can flatten a sound and will make to sound dull.
You can read the following snare drum related compression tips here.
Content last updated on October 21, 2012
33 Responses
I’m not sure..but it works with Adobe Audition 1.5 which has much less user-base than Pro tools. Just try it to see if works. Good luck.
Are these Sony plug-ins compatible with Pro Tools?
Thanks for the setting tips, I’m learning how to use the compressors in logic, so far your vocal and guitar settings are balancing things much better. going to try out the drums next. Cheers!
5 to 1 I don’t go over 2to 1 very often I have cubase so if it is that bad I pen edit like you said comp take away sound or bounce to another track and chase it with the slider.
Yeah probably, I have some ideas on how to mix accordion with compression and EQ. I will write a post on this. Thanks for the idea.
Hi..I really like your tips. I wonder if you know how to compress and EQ an accordion? Thanks.
Hi Andy, thanks for the feedback. I did encounter a problem before using sony wavehammer when I reinstall my OS, I lost my Sony plugins and installers. What I did is to use the Sony wavehammer compression settings (attack, ratio, etc) in other compressor plugins such as the Focusrite plugin suite and it works.
I think this tip can be helpful to those that cannot have Sony Wavehammer in their DAW during mixing.
thanks for the info. I think it works only audition-cool-edit-pro-2 like versions… I was asking about audition cs5.5. anyways I also use cool edit pro 2, so no problem using sony wavehammer.
Thanks! and thanks for this article it has really helped!
Yeah that will do. The key is to understand the principles that produces that certain compressed sound and then work further to get the sound you want. Audio mixing is all about experimentation and what sounds good to your ears. Good luck.
I don’t have a audio interface at this time. Hoping to get some work soon and was thinking of getting a zoom R16. I actually just got Reaper a weekago. I’ll have to mess around with the comps that come with it. Thanks!
Hi Steve,
Do you already have an audio interface? It is because I was thinking I could test some free plug-ins that comes along with some audio interface. These plug-ins could sound great but with few tweaks.
For the meantime, you can try using any free compressor (like those that comes from Reaper Digital audio workstation) but use the wave hammer settings provided in the tutorial. Of course not of all those settings could be present in free plug-ins but at least the essential settings of a compressor are covered like threshold, compression ratio, release time, attack time.
Cheers.
Emerson
I tried the vocal technique and it was perfect for the vocals. But I have a problem. Sound forge is way to pricey for me and that seems to be the only way to get wave hammer. Do you have any alternatives to get that sound? free vsts would be great but not completely necessary. Thanks so much!
Please read this tutorial: https://www.audiorecording.me/how-to-manage-remove-directx-plugin-in-adobe-auditioncool-edit-pro.html
Thanks!
I just want to ask:
since you mention as below,
“Compressing vocals in the mix —–I use the presets of Sony Wave hammer-Voice settings. This plugin is available in Sony Creative Sound Forge 10. If you have this installed in your computer, since this a Direct X plug-in, it can also be added to Adobe Audition or other DAW that accepts Direct X plug-in.”
How did you import the wave hammer to use in adobe?
Please show me step by step thank you.
You can start here: https://www.audiorecording.me/how-compressor-attack-and-release-works-a-beginner-tutorial.html
Actually, the threshold is independent of the compressor attack and release time. But all attack, release and threshold is strongly dependent on the audio material being mixed. You do not need to calculate either. You simply need to use your ears. If you cannot use your ears to judge audio compression. You will have a hard time to become a successful mixing or recording engineer.
Hello Emerson, is there any relation between compressor’s attack time and release time to the threshold of the compressor? If so how do i know how to set the attack time corresponding to the release time, or release time to the attack time? I need ur help in calculating betwn the two. I am using waves c1 comp. Thnks in advance.
Would the compressing vocals in the mix settings be the same for a compressor in the vocal chain while tracking?
Emerson,
Thank you very much for sending me that tip on piano compression. I know that experience will be the best teacher but I’m starting to see the big picture now about compression!
Hi Herman,
I just wrote a guide regarding the compression settings for piano here: https://www.audiorecording.me/how-to-mix-piano-keyboard-panning-eq-and-compression-techniques.html
I hope it answers your inquiry, thanks.
Cheers.
What would be some compression settings for piano. I notice that you didn’t mention. I’m reading a lot not much compression is given to the piano anyway…
hi,
it is very nice tips. can you help me with one of my problems. i have just bought korg d3200 and my recording just goes well except the final mixing is abit silent. can you pls tell me what should i do with that? can i make it louder on my mixer or do i need to master my fineshed songs with another mastering software?
thanks in advance
Hi Hulinning,
I will write a separate article on the use of Expand/gate setting for the compressor. You can subscribe to the blog feeds to get the latest update. Thanks.
Hi,
In compressor, there are also Expand/Gate settings.
What settings do you recommend for these?
Thanks
Hi DjM@NjOl,
Yeah sure, I will write a tutorial on this. Please subscribe to the feeds to keep you updated. Thanks.
Cheers.
Great Tutorial. Thanks tonss. Could you post a tutorial for EQ with sound forge 10.
Thanks Again.
Hi Partha,
I will write a different posts in how to mix, compress and EQ sitar. It will be available in this website soon as a tutorial. Do not forget to subscribe to my feeds, just enter your email address above. Thanks.
Update: You can read the tutorial here: https://www.audiorecording.me/mixing-conga-eq-panning-compression-and-reverb.html
whats d eq for sitar?
good post! It’s always good to have a refresher on compression!
Great! Always remember to EQ first before you compress for best results. Cheers and thanks for your comment.
Thanks a lot for all the tips!
I’m gonna try out those wave hammer settings as soon as possible for my acoustic+vocal music project and see how it works out.
Thanks a lot!
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